Hi John,
You more than most will have seen the changes that have taken place in recent years. Now you've "seen the light" you can try to help others who may still look up to you to have the veil lifted also.
Ivor Hope
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Corruption within the elder ranks!
by JohnSteadman ini have been serving as a presiding overseer in the united kingdom for over 20 years, in my time i have seen the organisation develop and grow both spiritually and financially.
i have seen elders come and go but more so than any other time i have witnessed lies and cover ups from elders, co's, bethel members which have caused me great upset.
i do not wish to go into any details but would like to warn people of the dishonesty that has become jehovah's organisation.
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OLD WT Books
by El Kabong ini've discovered a bunch of old wt books that i had in boxes.
these books go back a ways.
i found truth books, your word is a lamp..", the paradise book, and many others.
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Ivor Hope
It was reading some of thses old books that convinced me about the true roots and nature of the WTS.
I've scanned a few pages and put them on my web site...espially from "Millions Now Living WILL Never Die" (Ever noticed the Society mis-quote this title as "Milliions now living MAY never die"?)
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Global Stop on all Kingdom Hall Building Work!
by Ivor Hope ini have heard today from 2 different sources that the wts has announced a global stop on all building work.
kingdom halls already being built are having the work on them stopped.. has anybody else heard this?
if it is true, what could be the reason.
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Ivor Hope
I have heard today from 2 different sources that the WTS has announced a global stop on all building work. Kingdom Halls already being built are having the work on them stopped.
Has anybody else heard this?
If it is true, what could be the reason. The only thing I can think of is the fact that they laon individual congregations money to build halls and then charge interest on it (interest on money freely donated for the express purpose of building new halls!). Any such loans have to be repaid with interest, which then becomes another taxable source of income to the Society. Maybe they don't want to pay the tax on it - again!!
I would love to know if anyone else has heard.
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Ivor Hope
After several minutes of pure pleasure considering all the options:
1. Pie.............Hot apple pie with custard
2. Cake............Srawberry Pavlova
3. Cookies.........White Chocolate Chip
4. Ice Cream.......Toffe/Fudge
5. Other...........Fresh Cream MerangueProblem is I'm on a diet!!
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Who is the President of the WTS?
by Ivor Hope inhow many jws know the name of their current president?.
everyone knows about russell, rutherford, knorr and franz.
most know about henschel but i haven't come across any that know the name of the current pres.. i believe it's don adams - and he doesn't even claim to be one of the "remnant"!
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Ivor Hope
How many JWs know the name of their current President?
Everyone knows about Russell, Rutherford, Knorr and Franz. Most know about Henschel but I haven't come across any that know the name of the current pres.
I believe it's Don Adams - and he doesn't even claim to be one of the "remnant"!!
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Are you bitter?
by rolling rock inis it just me, or is "everyone" on this board bitter?.
i do know alot of happy jws and, i could not see them being anything else but jws.... .
this is just my take on what i have been reading on the boards sence i joined up...
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Ivor Hope
Why should I be bitter?
I never tried hard at school because there was no point....the new system was to be here in 1975.
I didn't pursue further education because this would have given me worldly influences.
I didn't go out and enjoy myself as a teenager because I would have become a promiscuous drug addict and in all probability contracted some indescribable sexually transmitted disease.
I didn't have any friends other than JW's who immediately turned their backs on me when I began to express doubts, because bad association spoils useful habits.
I didn't pursue a career because 75 was just aropund the corner and I needed to Pioneer.
I didn't encourage my children toward academic excellence but guided them also down the Pioneer route, so that they too have to struggle now for a good life.
I have no pension to look forward to, because why on earth would I need a pension when the end was coming in '75, or "soon" whenever you ask the question.
I have spent my whole life devoted to an organisation that was founded on the beliefs of a man who based his prophecies of the end of the world on the measurements of the corridors and chambers of the Great Pyramid of Gizah, and who was followed by an egotistical alcoholic who's greatest achievement was to fool this organisation into building him a mansion in California where only he lived and supplied him with 2 Cadilacs - all at the height of the great depression!!
I have been tricked, conned and lied to all my life by an organisation falsely claiming to represent the God I wanted to worship and who's leaders, under oath in a Scottish court, admitted they published FALSE PROPHECY!Why the hell should I be bitter?
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Working with JWs
by Ivor Hope inhas anyone out there had experience of working for or with jws?.
is it just me, or are they the worst people to work with....they "use" anybody for their own ends, they expect everyone else to make allowances for their life style but are not prepared to make allowances for anyone else's, they do as little as they can for as long as they can and have absolutely no loyalty to their employers or fellow workers!!.
my recent experience is that they also will be "economical" with the truth (the real truth), as long as it benefits them.. maybe i'm a bit biased, but i would never want to work with or for another witness ever again!
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Ivor Hope
Hi RedhorseWoman
Thanks for the comment. Yes I am still around and yes the web site is still active. I revamped it a while ago, but am planning to add quite a lot in the near future.
I am totally free of the collective now and glad of it. By coming out the way I did I have managed to take quite a few family members with me.
Did I know you by a different name?
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Working with JWs
by Ivor Hope inhas anyone out there had experience of working for or with jws?.
is it just me, or are they the worst people to work with....they "use" anybody for their own ends, they expect everyone else to make allowances for their life style but are not prepared to make allowances for anyone else's, they do as little as they can for as long as they can and have absolutely no loyalty to their employers or fellow workers!!.
my recent experience is that they also will be "economical" with the truth (the real truth), as long as it benefits them.. maybe i'm a bit biased, but i would never want to work with or for another witness ever again!
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Ivor Hope
I've been really interested in the responses to my original post, and it shows that there is a general "attitude" to work amongst many JWs.
I know there are a lot of hard working witnesses out there ( I was one :-) ), but there does seem to be a general concensus that there are more than a few bad workers and employers. Of course, there are also many poor workers from all different backgrounds. The reason I made the point is because of the way JW's are always patting themsewlves on the back as to how hard working and honest they all are, and how any employer would prefer to have JWs rather than anybody else.
I plan to post something soon about the questionable work practices of the Witness retirement/nursing homes in the UK. That is very revealing!
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Working with JWs
by Ivor Hope inhas anyone out there had experience of working for or with jws?.
is it just me, or are they the worst people to work with....they "use" anybody for their own ends, they expect everyone else to make allowances for their life style but are not prepared to make allowances for anyone else's, they do as little as they can for as long as they can and have absolutely no loyalty to their employers or fellow workers!!.
my recent experience is that they also will be "economical" with the truth (the real truth), as long as it benefits them.. maybe i'm a bit biased, but i would never want to work with or for another witness ever again!
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Ivor Hope
Thanks Mum,
You are right of course. However, some of the things I have come across recently really do make you wonder. JW employers only paying less than the minimum wage, not paying for public holidays because they are "worldy" days which JWs don't believe in, dodging tax payment whenever they can (taking the WTS lead) and loads of other things.
JW employees are just as bad, taking advantage at every opportunity!
Thankfully I'm not in that situation any more!
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Working with JWs
by Ivor Hope inhas anyone out there had experience of working for or with jws?.
is it just me, or are they the worst people to work with....they "use" anybody for their own ends, they expect everyone else to make allowances for their life style but are not prepared to make allowances for anyone else's, they do as little as they can for as long as they can and have absolutely no loyalty to their employers or fellow workers!!.
my recent experience is that they also will be "economical" with the truth (the real truth), as long as it benefits them.. maybe i'm a bit biased, but i would never want to work with or for another witness ever again!
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Ivor Hope
Has anyone out there had experience of working for or with JWs?
Is it just me, or are they the worst people to work with....they "use" anybody for their own ends, they expect everyone else to make allowances for their life style but are not prepared to make allowances for anyone else's, they do as little as they can for as long as they can and have absolutely no loyalty to their employers or fellow workers!!
My recent experience is that they also will be "economical" with the truth (the real truth), as long as it benefits them.
Maybe I'm a bit biased, but I would never want to work with or for another witness ever again! Thank God I'm don't have the "HOPE" for the future anymore...can you imagine living in a world inhabited by nothing but Jehovah's Witnesses!!!!!!! [>:(]